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Posted: 07 December 2009 05:41 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Mr. Hobbs,

Do you think if 5-HTP and tyrosine are suitable for anyone who is on Prozac?

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Posted: 07 December 2009 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Yesure,

Tyrosine is not a problem with Prozac.

You need to be cautious with 5-HTP or tryptophan and approach it slowly, and make sure not to overdo it, however, that being said, there are quite a few doctors who have given 5-HTP with SSRI’s like Prozac without a problem.

A technical book on drugs says that combining 5-HTP with Prozac (or other SSRI’s) causes a profound serotonin response.

Most doctors I’m familiar with who combine 5-HTP with Prozac (or other SSRI’s) give 100 mg of 5-HTP.

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Posted: 08 December 2009 07:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Mr. Hobbs,

Great information! I appreciate it.

For weight loss, what is the dosage of tyrosine per day?

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Posted: 09 December 2009 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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yesure,

Thanks for you kind words. I appreciate it.

Tyrosine Dosage—250-600 mg 3 or 4 times per day

Just to be clear, I am not aware of any studies showing that tyrosine causes weight loss.

A reasonable dose based on personal experience of taking tyrosine daily for the past 15 years is 250-600 mg 3 or 4 times per day.

I have heard therapist talk about using much larger doses, and have seen studies that have used much larger doses for enhancing mood, but in my experience, too much of any one amino acid may cause an imbalance of other amino acids.

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Posted: 09 December 2009 07:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yesure,

Studies have found that combining tyrosine with drugs or supplements that release noradrenaline increase their effectiveness.

Drugs or supplements that release noradrenaline include:

- phenylpropanolamine (PPA), which is no longer available
- ephedrine
- phentermine
- diethylpropion (Tenuate)

A study combining PPA with tyrosine found it made it more effective.

If I remember correctly, they also did the same with ephedrine.

(PPA is an isomer of ephedrine, that is, it has the same chemical formula, but the atoms are arranged in a slightly different way.)

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Posted: 09 December 2009 07:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Yesure,

Take Tyrosine with Food to Reduce the Possibility of Stomach Problems

I would suggest taking tyrosine with food to reduce the possibility of stomach problems.

For 12 years, from 1982 to 1994, I took phenylalanine, the precursor to tyrosine, on an empty stomach because it is more effective that way because it does not have to compete with other amino acids to get into the brain.

However, it cause lots of stomach problems.

I wrote about it here:

http://fatnews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/what-is-phenterprine-and-is-it-effective-for-weight-loss/

(Maybe I do a video about my experience so that others can avoid causing themselves the same problem.)

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Posted: 09 December 2009 07:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Yesure,

I used L-tyrosine several times a day for years, but have switched to N-acetyl-L-tyrosine.

I did this because a site which sell both said that N-acetyl-L-tyrosine is more rapidly absorbed and may be more bioavailable.

I have not looked for the research to prove this, but I trust the site and have bought from them for 25 years, so I assume it is probably true.

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Posted: 12 December 2009 03:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Mr. Hobbs,

Very awesome knowledge! I appreciate it very much.

Does caffeine cause serotonine syndrome or something like that? Can someone on Prozac drink coffee?

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Posted: 12 December 2009 11:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Yesure,

Thanks.

No, caffeine does not cause serotonin syndrome.

Caffeine causes the release of adrenaline, but does not have an effect (or much of an effect) on serotonin.

Serotonin syndrome is also possibly when combining SSRI’s like Prozac or Zoloft, etc with tryptophan or 5-HTP, although many doctors have given 5-HTP with drugs like Prozac without a problem.

I will write another post of a list of symptoms of serotonin syndrome, also called serotonin toxicity.

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Posted: 12 December 2009 11:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Symptoms of Serotonin Syndrome

Here are symptoms of too much serotonin ( Serotonin Syndrome ).

— severe excitement, 
—hypomania (excitability, 
—hyperactive and 
—talkativeness, 
—quick anger and 
—irritability, 
—decreased need for sleep), 
—restlessness, 
—loss of consciousness, 
—confusion, 
—disorientation, 
—anxiety, 
—agitation, 
—motor weakness, 
—muscle spasms, 
—tremor, 
—flailing motion of the arms, 
—hyperreflexia, 
—impaired ability to coordinate movement, 
—difficult poorly articulated speech, 
—incoordination, 
—elevated body temperature, 
—shivering, 
—pupillary dilation, 
—sweating, 
—vomiting, 
—tachycardia (a racing heart), 
—muscle twitches or rigidity, 
— diarrhea, 
—changes in blood pressure, 
—and coma.

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